Fallout #2

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From Broadcast here

 

Labour MPs have tabled an early day motion following True North’s Dispatches: Undercover Undertaker on Co-operative Funeralcare that aired earlier this week on Channel 4.

The motion stated MPs were “shocked and disgusted” by the Channel 4 doc which showed the funeral care provider stored coffins containing bodies in warehouses on industrial estates.

Sponsored by Labour MP Roger Godsiff and backed by fellow party members Ronnie Campbell and Virendra Sharma, it went on to call for the resignation of those staff responsible.

“This House… believes that a mutual organisation can, and should, have higher ethical standards than a purely profit-orientated company,” the motion said.

Co-operative Funeralcare managing director George Tinning said the footage aired was not “typical” of its business.

“We operate specialised facilities in each area servicing various branches in that area and in those facilities we have mortuaries, coffin storage, garaging and the like.

“Most of them are associated with funeral homes, very few of them are on high streets because it would be totally inappropriate to have mortuaries in every high street,” he said.

“You can rest assured that although this is a side of our business that the public don’t see, that they are amongst the finest in the profession and facilities that we are very proud of.”

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Simon Irons
Simon Irons
10 years ago

Searching YouTube to watch the programme again, I came across this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HLYu6K99aA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Now that is shocking.

Ru Callender
10 years ago

Context is everything Simon. As you know, that is Carl Marlow with the body of Rajpal Mehat, a 31 year old Indian immigrant who drowned in a canal and lay unidentified in a morgue for months. The body was in an advanced state of decomposition, and as you can see from Carl ‘s reaction, the smell must have been dreadful. Brave of Carl to allow that to be filmed, but not much scares Carl. If dirty looks in Newcastle crem could kill, Carl would have been in one of his wingless Angels of the North coffins a long time ago.

Simon Irons
Simon Irons
10 years ago

Oh that’s ok then, just for a moment I thought that it was a deceased person……

Simon Irons
Simon Irons
10 years ago

Oh and where was he, in a mortuary or a warehouse, one rule for one, one rule for another…….

Ru Callender
10 years ago

Being dead, I don’t imagine Rajpal minded. Isn’t weirdly counter intuitive that the people who really need looking after during this process are the living? Sad that this exaggerated courtesy towards the one person who is beyond needing it is often at the their expense. Say what you like about Carl, and many do, he’s not going to be hiding the cheaper option, forcing families to have unnecessary procedures or flat out lying to them.

Charles Cowling
10 years ago

Simon, there is a difference between revelation and exhumation, between old news and breaking news. The YouTube video you have drawn to our attention first featured on this blog the better part of four years ago on 9 September 2008: http://tinyurl.com/83avna9. It refers to an event which occurred in 2006. It was I who posted it. The context is as Ru Callender describes above. You say you find it shocking, but I’d suggest that that’s not the point. Baba Ghai and the members of the Anglo-Asian Friendship Society, at whose bidding Carl made arrangements for the open-air cremation of Rajpal… Read more »

Charles Cowling
10 years ago

With ref to the above, I have had second thoughts about removing your comment from other posts for the time being, Simon.

simon irons
simon irons
10 years ago

Charles
Guess a little fustration comming out, but this subject is being debated on all the blogs I posted it on.
If you want to move them all to one place, perhaps a specific blog on the subject please feel free.
Simon

Charles Cowling
10 years ago

Simon, I have invited you to post a full and reasoned response to Undercover Undertaker – have you read what have written? Write what you have to say in full and email it to me. And please stop spamming, it is an abuse of hospitality.

Why would I write a separate post about the YouTube video you have linked to? I said all I have to say in 2008. It’s there for all to see

Alan Stanley
Alan Stanley
10 years ago

At least the Co-Op now seem mostly to operate under their own name, though I believe there are still places where the old family business name is kept. I’m just arranging the funeral for a family member and, being a Celebrant, thought I was wise to most things. However I was very surprised to find out that the firm local to my family home, which we have always used, is now part of Dignity. There really should be greater clarity about who runs these firms, and whether any others use this dreadful ‘hub’ facility for the care of our loved… Read more »

andrew plume
andrew plume
10 years ago

Hello Alan

Yes, as far as I know, Dignity operate similar hub operations

and if I may sak are you instructing said ‘local firm’?

regards

andrew

andrew plume
andrew plume
10 years ago

Hi Charles

the link that you posted ‘is subscriber only’…………

are you able to cut and paste the text please?

regards

andrew

Charles Cowling
10 years ago

Hi Andrew

You are digging up some excellent stuff in that indefatigable way of yours. On behalf of all of us, thank you.

I managed to download the whole article, but they seem to have put the shutters up. There wasn’t much more in it than that.

andrew plume
andrew plume
10 years ago

thx Charles

best

andrew

Jed
Jed
10 years ago

‘Searching YouTube to watch the programme again, I came across this’
Simon, no one believes you. I think you probably put those videos up yourself, several times in fact. You have made yourself look like a fool, you poor poor boy.

andrew plume
andrew plume
10 years ago

Charles Here’s the full text of the piece that kicked off this thread ‘Labour MPs have tabled an early day motion following True North’s Dispatches: Undercover Undertaker on Co-operative Funeralcare that aired earlier this week on Channel 4. The motion stated MPs were “shocked and disgusted” by the Channel 4 doc which showed the funeral care provider stored coffins containing bodies in warehouses on industrial estates. Sponsored by Labour MP Roger Godsiff and backed by fellow party members Ronnie Campbell and Virendra Sharma, it went on to call for the resignation of those staff responsible. “This House… believes that a… Read more »

Omega
Omega
10 years ago

It does make me cringe a little when MP’s start commenting on what is “shocking and disgusting” and claiming the moral high ground especially when two of these got caught up in the expenses scandal of recent times. That particular nasty little episode affected each and every one of us through their sheer greed until it was exposed. Roger Godsiff got stung for £7,000 for “ahem” office sundries which he said he will pay back. And Ronnie Campbell agreed to give back £6,000 claimed for house furnishings. Perhaps if they acted a little more ethical themselves then we could view… Read more »

andrew plume
andrew plume
10 years ago

Dear Omega

Good points but not allied to what is the issue here. MP’s (overpaid) expenses can be repaid, a bad funeral experience (wherever ‘obtained’) is something completely different

yours

andrew

A.N.Employee
A.N.Employee
10 years ago

Yeah I suppose your right Andrew. All they do is pay back our money they spent in feathering their lavish nests and all is forgiven then go back to lecturing others to never make mistakes.And please don’t try to simplify the matter by bracketing the word overpaid as you know exactly what a huge scandal it was.Maybe it’s not allied to this particular problem but it’s the morality of their stance. In the history of mankind human error has always played a part and always will no matter how good we think we ALL are. And ANY man that says… Read more »

Omega
Omega
10 years ago

Ah A.N…your back!! But itwould appear to the eagle eyed contributors on this blog that the comment you made above should’ve come from me!
Now people think we are one and the same person you idiot!

A.N.Employee
A.N.Employee
10 years ago

Sorry Omega but I pressed the submit button before I realised my alter ego name and email was already there,do you think they’ll notice?

Omega
Omega
10 years ago

Nah,I shouldn’t think so.
MrXX has been getting away with it for ages!,;)

Omega and A.N.Employee
Omega and A.N.Employee
10 years ago

We’ll get our coats………

Nick Gandon
10 years ago

All this duplicity seems to be mighty contagious in a corporate sort of way…..

TAXI for STAFF!!!

Jonathan
Jonathan
10 years ago

Once and for all, ‘your’ is the possessive; ‘you’re’ is the word you’re looking for, as you’ll see if you’d look back at your previous comments, all of you. Your ‘your’ is giving your ignorance away every time you’re misusing it.

Grrr.

Omega
Omega
10 years ago

Ha ha there’s a sense of humour in the post Nick,wear it well.
Taxis almost here and wondered if Gloria,Ann,MrXX,Dawn etc wanted to share it? I think there might be enough room.
Nah, thought not:)

Regards.

andrew plume
andrew plume
10 years ago

thanks A.N.Employee/Omega

yours

andrew

claire callender
10 years ago

it’s getting creepy in here.

Ru Callender
10 years ago

Fantastic. My favourite moment so far. You couldn’t make it up! Er…

Nick Gandon
10 years ago

I think it’s safe to come out now everyone… the smoke has cleared, but take care – there may be a couple of mirrors still about…