Death in Italy

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 Posted by Richard Rawlinson

 

The Cremation Society of Great Britain this month publishes its international cremation statistics for 2010. See here.

The country with the highest percentage of cremations is Japan at 99.9%, and the country with the lowest percentage is Ghana at 3%. But, for me, the most interesting comparison, is between the UK and Italy.

The UK, which has 260 crematoria nationwide, had 413,780 cremations, which is 73% of the total 565,624 deaths. Italy, which had a similar number of deaths to the UK, had 488,756 fewer cremations. Italy’s 76,868 cremations amount to 14% of the total 585,448 deaths.

I confess to being a bit of an Italophile but it strikes me Italians celebrate life with verve but treat death with a dignity that’s also practical and realistic – an approach that’s perhaps lacking in some Protestant countries where death is more taboo.

Italian funerals and wakes remain sombre occasions where most people wear black. When someone dies in a village, he or she is still kept in an open coffin at home and friends and neighbours visit to pay their respects. The family often decorate the door of the house and put up notices to tell people about the death and the funeral. They have a full mass at the funeral service and neighbours and friends follow the pallbearers to the cemetery in a procession while people watch respectfully.

The cemetries are well kept, too, and the graves seem to be cared for with love, often displaying framed photos of the deceased and newly-placed flowers.

The cemeteries outside the Mediterranean towns are among the best. They often have wonderful views, with coffins placed in niches of high walls, each with their own light and vase.

Long may these traditions last. The crass festival of Halloween is sadly slowly taking the place of the Day of the Dead when, on 2 November, Italians visit the graves of their relatives and friends with chrysanthemums and candles; churches hold services for the dead, and children are given toys and presents by the ‘muorti’.

When the newly married Grace Kelly put a vase of chrysanthemums on a guest’s bedside table, her Prince Ranier of Monaco berated her. ‘Don’t you know these flowers symbolise death in Europe?’ he said.

 

Find the Cremation Society of Great Britain here

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Richard Rawlinson
Richard Rawlinson
12 years ago

Call me egotistical but I’m surprised the latest crem stats aren’t worthy of comment. I’m interested in what you guys have to say. Aside from the Italy/UK comparison, it’s perhaps interesting that the US has 40% of crems out of its 2m annual deaths, which amounts to just a few more than the UK total. Any comments about that? Another footnote: On 26 March, 1885, Jeannette Pickersgill, a writer, became the first person in the UK to be legally cremated at the newly opened Woking Crematorium in Surrey. By the end of the year, only three cremations had taken place… Read more »

tim clark
tim clark
12 years ago

Never let it be said we neglected your stats Richard! Presumably the growth in cremation aligns with changes in beliefs and, less profoundly, attitudes? And also, do you have an assumption that cremation is somehow less dignified (your Italian comparison) and so Italians have many fewer cremations because they manage to be both dignified and practical? And also, Catholics took much longer to accept cremation, did they not? And finally: the comparison with Italy is interesting, because the prob with us is surely how we do cremations. There seem in general to be slightly fewer comments from the Regulars than… Read more »

Richard Rawlinson
Richard Rawlinson
12 years ago

Hi Tim. Actually, despite Catholicism and love of Italia, I have no strong views on cremation, except I’d never, ever choose it.

As for your final comment/question, yes, folk are a bit quiet lately. Any ideas for a heated debate?

Richard Rawlinson
Richard Rawlinson
12 years ago

Tim, please expand on the ‘prob with us is surely how we do cremations’. Do you think cremation is less dignified than burial, or is it how the ceremony is performed that counts? How does faithlessness affect how things are done, or attitudes to death? This relates also to Charles’s more recent blog (I think it’s by Charles) ‘What price value?’ I suspect any trend for budget funerals is not just due to economics but also to apathy caused by lack of belief in the after life – a funeral becomes an inconvenience to overcome. It doesn’t say much about… Read more »

Charles Cowling
12 years ago

Richard, I think crem stats can be accounted for only by considering a welter of factors. I’m inclined to encourage you to read Stephen Prothero’s Purified by Fire, which examines the phenomenon in ways which illuminate (pun intended) British practice. Some cultural and utilitarian factors: 1 Protestants do not believe in intercession, which greatly diminishes the role of mourners at a funeral. Second, this is but a wee island which does not, as sensible countries on the continent do, re-use graves. Cremation is a great space saver. The geographical distribution of cremation in both Europe and the UK follows, I… Read more »

tim clark
tim clark
12 years ago

H’m, well that’s a good question, Richard. Personally, I feel a burial has a fundamental connection with our earth (but of course Hindus feel cremation has ditto with fire, so that’s just a personal feeling.) Charles puts the practical argument about space. I think it does depend entirely on how it’s done. The difficulty with cremations is the crem and the time slot. I really feel that a funeral ceremony elsewhere, with the coffin, followed by a cremation can be just as effective as a burial, and of course burial ceremonies tend to get cut short in foul weather (as… Read more »

Richard Rawlinson
Richard Rawlinson
12 years ago

Hi Charles, thanks for the Purified by Fire tip and interesting that Protestant rejection of intercession is likely to be a contributing factor to crem stats in northern Europe alongside, of course, space shortages. Hi Tim, I take your point about indoor funerals being practical in our climate, and, of course, that both secular and religious funerals can be profound rites of passage when done with commitment. The single slot in the crem, without a ceremony before the committal, seems a significant obstacle. But filling even this with initiatives such as your choir seems like a leap forward, along with… Read more »

tim clark
tim clark
12 years ago

Catch22 it is Richard – do we give them “what they want” or push things along a little, with maximum sensitivity, and help them find what they really need – or is that just arrogance? Well, I’ll be taking a canter round this old conumdrum this pm at a family meeting, trying to decide if I should mention, let alone suggest, Threnody, antennae quivering nervously…

Richard Rawlinson
Richard Rawlinson
12 years ago

Tim, sometimes you really are the Anglican of secular celebrancy – so open-minded (relativist) that you qualify any informed statement with phrases like ‘in my humble opinion’ or ‘this is just a personal feeling’ or, as above, ‘ …is that just arrogance…?’ It’s a good trait as there’s always grey between black and white. But we all need to aspire to the lightest shade possible which means jumping off the fence into the ‘right’ side. I trust your hunches, they don’t always need to couched with such tiptoeing modesty. Then again, I’m often accused of arrogance!

tim clark
tim clark
12 years ago

Well, there’s a lot of dogmatism (in the loosest secular sense) on the internet Richard, and one tires of over-confidence based non very limited thought or empathy – but I take your point, sometimes one just needs to go for it and risk kicking a few shins…

Arrogance is a charge often thrown – and often unreasonably – at those with definite beliefs, don’t you find? Big difference in our discussions between arrogance and a personal sense of certainty.

No Threnody for this pm’s good people, they’ve plenty too much to fill their 30 minutes!

Richard Rawlinson
Richard Rawlinson
12 years ago

Good luck with Threnody next time. Go for it, goes the Nike catchphrase. Because they’re worth it, goes the L’Oreal’s.

I quite agree that definite belief is not necessarily arrogance. Absolute certainties either way can cause tension between those with differing opinions. But mankind needs to learn to handle those tensions maturely, without hating each other. Apathy is not the answer as it’s an unresolved truce.