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Wow. Watching this space
It would fit in with any corporate. The business model seems exactly the same.
How the. Mighty fall. Perhaps the coop are running out of money. Having to keep paying out compensation on all the blunders made by their cowboy incompetent management. NO BONUS. This year Mr Tinning and co
ooooh, Mr WB
how poignant and well, I can well agree with this suggestion…….
regards
andrew
Funeral care is a potential source of cash for the Co-Op, not the cause of their financial problems – which appear to stem from the 2009 purchase of the Britannia Building Society. Lloyds bought HBOS at the same time and they have struggled since then so it is not a unique Co-Op problem. They have sold their life assurance business for £200 million – barely 10% of their capital shortfall on the most pessimistic assumption. Will they sell the rest of the bank to another bank? Or will they sell their profitable assets (funerals, supermarkets) to bridge a ‘temporary’ problem… Read more »
good stuff indeed Simon, thanks for posting
as, errr, a reasonably ‘long term’ critic of Funeralcare’s ‘activities’ shall we say, I have long hoped for a ‘break up’ of this beast but as it’s so large, exactly how….? SCI will not venture back into the UK and it would be a large animal for anyone to swallow, Dignity would probably be out of the game on pure competition grounds, alone……………..but……
regards
andrew
One thought intriges me; if some outfit does buy Funeralcare outright, will it follow their example and carry on trading under Funeralcare’s own good (sic) name, as if nothing had happened?
Its motto could be: ‘Because They Cared’.
Simon said: “…Finally, would anyone like to hazard a guess as to what Funeral care is likely to be worth to a potential buyer?…” Yes, I’ll have a go The largest recent acquisition (as some kind of a pointer) was Dignity’s acquisition of Yew Holdings (nearly six months ago) for £58.3M, which was thought by some to be on the high side. (F’care will be able to achieve a higher funerals per branch figure than Yew did, I suspect and do more pa than yew). The consideration included 40 branches (their respective freeholds) and two Crems F’care have approx 900… Read more »
One would normally say ‘in one fell swoop’…or were you being ironic?
thx Michael
no, no irony, this time……………………
andrew
Can anyone advise as to the ultimate holder of assets re f/cares funeral plans?
The Funeralcare website says: The Co-operative Funeralcare is required by UK law to invest all Funeral Plan monies in a Financial Services Authority (FSA) regulated Whole of Life policy or trust fund. If you are paying in full or by Direct Debit over 12, 24, 36 or 60 months, the money is invested in The Co-operative Insurance Whole of Life fund. If you are paying by Fixed Monthly Payments the money is invested in a Whole of Life policy with AXA Wealth Ltd. Your money is managed under the Financial Services Authority (FSA) Guidelines and the fund is subject to… Read more »
Thanks Andrew.
– Nick
I think it is unlikely that they will sell many or any of their funeral branches at this would create a very difficult situation in respect of any clients who have purchased funeral plans that can only be serviced by them, within certain post codes anyway. They could of course consider the sale of some of their crematoriums, masonry departments or even their coffin manufacturing business. Much more likely a strategy I suspect will be a re drafting of existing budgets over investment within the funeral business infastructure, coupled with a significant increase in thier charges. In short they will… Read more »
But isn’t the Co-operative one of the biggest property owners in the UK, owning something like £100 billion pounds worth of property? Think how many bank branches, food stores, funeral homes, pharmacy stores, retail distribution centres, farms etc etc they actually own. I would bet my hat that nothing will happen to funeralcare at all. They couldn’t be more rich in assets if they tried.
Funeralcare is a solid buisness earning well in an ever growing marketplace
They would be fools to sell it.
Like all large buisnesses there are the odd bad apples and like all buisnesses the people at the top are greedy and money orientated.
But the vast core of employees in funeralcare are professional people who are committed to looking after the families and their loved ones.
It would certainly be a solid investment for any buyer
And yes I do work for funeralcare so I am qualified to comment.