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  1. Quokkagirl

    Friday 12th October 2012 at 7:57 pm

    I remember that interview, sweetpea, and whenever I saw or heard him interviewed I was left with a feeling of disquiet. If what we read is true there are many other people in his circles and in his profession who are culpable by their silence. Not sure about exhuming him – what would that achieve? Even the worst of offenders have the right to be buried surely, but it may be best to move him to an anonymous site for the sake of others who use the cemetery. An uncomfortable situation indeed for those who have to deal with this situation – but their situation will never be as uncomfortable as those he allegedly harmed must have been in for all those years.

  2. sweetpea

    Friday 12th October 2012 at 10:40 am

    It is very peculiar that there seems to have been such widespread and detailed misgivings about such a person, and yet no individual or organisation had the independence of will or means to address the concerns.

    In 1992, the late and much lamented Dr Anthony Clare published his interview with Jimmy Savile, which was part of the outstanding Radio Four ‘In the Psychiatrist’s Chair’ series. He was plainly made uneasy by this man, and writes:

    ‘Lynn Barber, in a newspaper interview published just before mine, went so far as to confront him with the rumour that he likes little girls. He rubbished that with his characteristic patter. With me, he declares quite coldly that he actually doesn’t like children very much at all. I was inclined to believe him and to believe too that he doesn’t much care for the patients at Broadmoor, the sick at St James’s, the physically disabled at Stoke Mandeville or the hundreds and thousands of other people and causes he helps by virtue of his publicity, his marathon running, his Jim’ll fix it approach. This is no Mother Teresa spiritually ministering to people’s emotional and material needs. Jimmy Savile says he is what you see. If he is to be believed he is a calculating materialist who does what he does because that that is what gives him the greatest sense of control, freedom, independence. He does not need people. But he can cope with people who need him as long as they are satisfied with the things he is prepared and able to give them – in most instances material things, in no instance himself……To date he appears to a reasonably contented man but how can one tell? Maybe it is my doubts that I could or would be able to live his pirate life that push me to project into him a foreboding that his solitary, shifting life is but a manifestation of a profound psychological malaise with its roots in that materially deprived, emotionally somewhat indifferent childhood which he so flatly describes. This is something chilling about this twentieth-century ‘saint’ which still intrigues me to this day. No, not an easy interview but, for me at any rate, not a forgettable one either.’

    The whole article and interview is well worth reading.

  3. Lyra

    Friday 12th October 2012 at 9:59 am

    If memory serves, The Oldie magazine published a damning article in February about Savile. I was surprised to then hear no more about it until recently.

  4. Phoebe Hoare

    Wednesday 10th October 2012 at 9:37 pm

    I think he will be proven guilty, not that that will affect him very much but will bring some relief to his victims. ‘It was good while it lasted’…couldn’t be more ironic!

  5. Wednesday 10th October 2012 at 7:14 pm

    Difficult. Yes credit to the family, but what happened to ‘innocent until proven guilty’? Perhaps in this case that will be impossible. Makes you think though doesn’t it?

  6. Phoebe Hoare

    Wednesday 10th October 2012 at 6:32 pm

    Agreed Andrew, and perhaps the threat of graffiti and vandalism also played a part in making a rapid decision.

    • andrew plume

      Friday 12th October 2012 at 11:33 am

      thx Phoebe

      and from what I’ve read (and even in the ‘red tops’), his family are very concerned of the likely impact on relatives of other burials there, which is also credit to them

      there is also a suggestion that JS may be exhumed, and if that’s the case, cremation seems to me to be the most appropriate option as there is bound to be an ongoing concern (and also one for the ‘ghouls’ too) if he is buried somewhere else (and you can bet that it that was to be the case then ‘the red tops’ would sniff it out)


  7. Wednesday 10th October 2012 at 5:03 pm

    I believe there was a spelling mistake!

    • andrew plume

      Wednesday 10th October 2012 at 6:22 pm

      yes, that’s what I heard too

      anyhow, credit is due (in my book) to his family for the rapid decision taken for the memorial to be removed


  8. andrew plume

    Wednesday 10th October 2012 at 4:40 pm

    well it certainly looks as though his estate is taking a fair hit on the costs for all of this, say £30K plus

    there was the Batesville gold casket, the new double grave, the £4K for the now no longer required masonry, the literal concrete overcoat following interment and that’s before Joseph A Hey’s own costs


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